Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt
Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Fri, 19 July 2013 03:40 UTC
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:40:04 -0700
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt
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Btw: I wrote something about proxies i would like to amend: > See section 3.1.4.1 which talks about proxies. The problem really is where > the proxied information comes from. If the proxy is doing DPI inspection to > deduce it or some configured mappings, then it's likely going to be unreliable > (encryption) or suffer from problems in getting it provisioned. In a prior life, we IETF standardized IP Multicast SSM which does require application upgrade (signal S,G), and then we and other vendors implemented what we call "SSM mapping" to work around that (not requiring application update). Call it an SSM proxy. No vendor brought this into the IETF because we always wanted to see this positioned as a temporary transition technology and not make it too attractive to run forever. Now, you don't want to know what really is deployed in networks and what strategies customer apply. Lets just say that SSM mapping is very successfull. So, to a degree you can account my above paragraph either as "famous last words" or "don't give up the good fight". So i am all for standardizing any proxy methods the IETF thinks makes sense to standardize. Cheers Toerless
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… George, Wes
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Amine Choukir (amchouki)
- Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for d… Amine Choukir (amchouki)