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Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 19 July 2013 04:14 UTC

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:15:05 +1200
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt
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On 19/07/2013 13:35, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> Let me give you a comparison: I think DNS is a system with
> a standardized data-model for information about specific objects,
> primarily hosts and services. The result/action from using DNS is
> most commonly some TCP connection(s). That does not make DNS a
> TSV target. The metadata framework is in my eyes about a system
> with a standardized data-model for traffic-flows and the result/action
> is most commonly some form of QoS for the traffic flows. Go figure.

Well, yes, and flow handling and QoS seems to be a regular topic in
the Transport area. Diffserv and Intserv were both developed in
the Transport area. It's a shame if they aren't aware of this work.

    Brian

> Having said this, we asked to preesent in TSVWG as well, but it does 
> not seem as if it would get onto the TSVWG WG agenda. I think there 
> would be good collaborators to be found from TSV because like DNS
> i would expect that the folks interested in the actions taken
> have an interest to build a data-model to make their actions easier.
> 
> Cheers
>     Toerless
> 
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:20:40AM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> On 19/07/2013 09:41, Reinaldo Penno (repenno) wrote:
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> Metadata has many uses and not just QoS.
>> Sure, but some of them clearly concern layers above 3.
>>
>>> Therefore we believe int-area to be appropriate. What are your thoughts?
>> I think this is a case where early discussion in TSVWG would avoid
>> problems later. In the end the choice of WG doesn't matter as long as
>> cross-area issues are caught as soon as possible.
>>
>>    Brian
>>
>>> On 7/18/13 4:58 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is this an intarea topic? To my mind it fits in tsvwg, which is
>>>> currently discussing things like QoS for rtcweb.
>>>>
>>>
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