Re: [Int-dir] Proposed change to review assignment email subject

[Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>]

On 3/30/22 12:43 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> Sure, but I would think that we /wouldn't/ want a review notification 
> to match that rule, right? Otherwise it's going to get filed in the 
> bucket for the draft and possibly not land on the reviewer's to-do list.

Ted - Other people _want_ these to go into their draft buckets. People 
have their own workflows, and having draft names in these announcements 
are already part of them.

When I am scanning email, I _personally_  want to see the draft name in 
the subject - a long string of things with a semantic of "you have a new 
review assignment, read the message or click on some links to find out 
what it is" is not welcome. Further, if I had some reason to go back 
later and find the message that pertained to a particular draft, such 
mining would not be ok.

RjS

>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:42 PM Robert Sparks <[e-mail]> 
> wrote:
>
>
>     On 3/30/22 12:29 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>     Do notifications to reviewers go in the archive?  If so, why?
>     Fair point - I'll look to confirm. But even if they don't, I know
>     of users that have filters in their own mail processing chains
>     that look for draft names in the subject line.
>>     Could we have one for the archive and one for the reviewer?  It
>>     seems to me that these are two separate functions. I don’t
>>     understand the first, but don’t object to it. I do object to the
>>     second being compromised in favor of the first.
>>
>>     On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 13:18 Robert Sparks
>>     <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         On 3/30/22 10:14 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
>>         > Hmm, I would avoid any instance of the draft name in the
>>         subject line.
>>
>>         The draft name MUST be on the subject line.
>>
>>         Many people search the archives (using mailarchive) for
>>         messages related
>>         to drafts looking for the draft name in the subject line. The
>>         datatracker even assumes this with the searches it provides
>>         in the
>>         buttons on a document's page.
>>
>>         RjS
>>
>>         >
>>         > Or do we have to say that in git?
>>         Do you mean github? If so, then no - participating on lists
>>         is fine (but
>>         this really should have gone to tools-discuss).
>>         >
>>         > Tim
>>         >
>>         >> On 30 Mar 2022, at 07:08, Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
>>         <evyncke=[e-mail]> wrote:
>>         >>
>>         >> Forwarding Robert's email just in case some filters were
>>         too paranoid and dropped it ;-)
>>         >>
>>         >> -éric
>>         >>
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>>         >> Subject: [OPS-DIR] Proposed change to review assignment
>>         email subject
>>         >>
>>         >>     Please take note of
>>         >>
>>         https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/discussions/3760.
>>         If the
>>         >>     change proposed there will cause problems for you, add
>>         a comment there,
>>         >>     or reply to [e-mail] to let us know.
>>         >>
>>         >>     RjS
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