Re: [Int-dir] Proposed change to review assignment email subject

Hi,

I think sending two e-mails would be an overkill. I think the consensus so
far is to use something like:

Your <team name> review assignment of <draft-foo> by <deadline>

Can we move forward with this? We'll need to inform reviewers so they can
update their filters if needed.

Thanks,

Carlos

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:18 PM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown=
40jisc.ac.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Well, then just send two emails, one in old school format, one as a
> ‘flare’ for attention.
>
> Then those who like it as it is have what they need, and those who are
> missing assignments have a greater chance of not doing so.
>
> Tim
>
> > On 31 Mar 2022, at 15:42, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/22 3:58 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
> >> On 30 Mar 2022, at 21:03, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> >>> On 3/30/22 12:43 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> >>>> Sure, but I would think that we /wouldn't/ want a review notification
> to match that rule, right? Otherwise it's going to get filed in the bucket
> for the draft and possibly not land on the reviewer's to-do list.
> >>> Ted - Other people _want_ these to go into their draft buckets. People
> have their own workflows, and having draft names in these announcements are
> already part of them.
> >> So send a separate alert to the reviewer, please, that is in a format
> least likely to be misfiled, parsed or spam foldered.
> > That assumes that the likelihood function you point to is the same for
> everyone, and we're seeing already that it is not. Removing the draft name
> will introduce errors for some and apparently introduce them for others.
> >>
> >> The subject can simply be “New INT-DIR assignment” or something simple
> like that.  Without any draft name.
> >>
> >> That MUST be possible.
> > This is starting to sound like a need for personalized subject lines.
> Would the calendar subscription suggestion made earlier better fill the
> need?
> >>
> >> And I really think this should be discussable and resolved here and not
> require us to engage in the Git issue tracker
> > I already said that it was I thought? But this should move to
> tools-discuss so we can get all the concerned review team members on one
> thread (I've added a Reply-To).
> >>
> >>> When I am scanning email, I _personally_  want to see the draft name
> in the subject - a long string of things with a semantic of "you have a new
> review assignment, read the message or click on some links to find out what
> it is" is not welcome. Further, if I had some reason to go back later and
> find the message that pertained to a particular draft, such mining would
> not be ok.
> >> A search can include the message body.
> >
> > Not really the right answer in modern mail clients with the volume of
> mail someone on the I* or who does work in many working groups has to see
> through.
> >
> >>   The current problem is clean receipt.
> >
> > And we're disagreeing on one part of what clean receipt requires.
> >
> >>
> >> Tim
>
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