Re: “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 19 September 2019 08:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding
From: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:56:37 +0300
Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, Rob Shakir <robjs@google.com>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>, 6man <6man@ietf.org>, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, "xiechf@chinatelecom.cn" <xiechf@chinatelecom.cn>, Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
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> On Sep 18, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Darren Dukes (ddukes) <ddukes@cisco.com> wrote:
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> The complexity of "SRv6+" requires ASICs do much more work per packet vs SRv6.

Duh. More processing is more processing, whether done in hardware, software, or firmware. I'm not a fan of segment routing for several reasons, but this fact isn't inherently one of them.