Re: Status of <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-16.txt> in AUTH48

[神明達哉 <[e-mail]>]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Bob Hinden <[e-mail]> wrote:

>    Fernando Gont would like to thank Nelida Garcia and Guillermo Daniel
>    Gont for their love and support, and Jorge Oscar Gont and Diego
>    Armando Maradona for their inspiration.
>
> Some of the other authors don’t think this change is appropriate for
> AUTH48, but the author proposing this has insisted on adding this
> text.
>
> Please respond with either support or non-support for this proposed
> change by 18 February 2017.  I think it is unfortunate to add extra
> delay over this change, but after consulting with our AD, I think
> the best course is to ask the working group.

Regarding this particular inquiry, I generally agree with Brian:
neither of the following seems to be something that the wg should
bother in the first place:
- whether the added text is appropriate for RFCs
- whether making this particular change to this particular document at
  AUTH48 is acceptable

But, the following point made me think it may be a bit subtler than my
initial and general observation:

At Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:42:42 -0500,
Alissa Cooper <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> Subsequent to sending message 2, I learned that this is at least the
>> 10th document in which Fernando has inserted similar acknowledgment
>> text during AUTH48.

If this is true (I didn't check it myself), I think it's reasonable to
ask whether the author doesn't exploit the AUTH48 stage to add some
specific text with avoiding possible discussions on the text at the wg
or with the IESG.  Even if the text itself is minor or even considered
not part of the wg/IETF business, an attitude that might look like
hiding a secret motivation from the process wouldn't be appreciated,
as it might make those authors look less trustworthy in general.  In
that sense, I think it's fair to say the text in question should have
been in drafts while they were discussed in the wg.

Again, for this particular case, I don't think I'm a right person to
say support or non-support.

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JINMEI, Tatuya