Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt
Mark Smith <ipng@69706e6720323030352d30312d31340a.nosense.org> Fri, 25 March 2011 07:20 UTC
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From: Mark Smith <ipng@69706e6720323030352d30312d31340a.nosense.org>
To: Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
Subject: Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:30:48 -0300 Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> wrote: > On 16/03/2011 01:51 p.m., Brian Haley wrote: > > > I have an almost off-topic comment, but since I've seen no mention of it > > in any of these privacy threads... > > > > You have to assume in a large data center that almost every MAC address you > > encounter is going to be randomly generated. > > Are they actually random? i.e., I'm curious about the algorithm used for > generating the Interface IDs. > Here's the routine typically used under Linux to generate these types of addresses - include/linux/etherdevice.h /** * random_ether_addr - Generate software assigned random Ethernet address * @addr: Pointer to a six-byte array containing the Ethernet address * * Generate a random Ethernet address (MAC) that is not multicast * and has the local assigned bit set. */ static inline void random_ether_addr(u8 *addr) { get_random_bytes (addr, ETH_ALEN); addr [0] &= 0xfe; /* clear multicast bit */ addr [0] |= 0x02; /* set local assignment bit (IEEE802) */ } > > > This is because there are > > *lots* of virtual machines out there, and the density of them is increasing > > exponentially. Their MACs could change daily as they are deployed and > > decommissioned, but from their perspective their MAC is hardware-based. > > I know you have this as a "SHOULD" requirement, but figured I should mention > > it since it's one of those places where this bit will be completely ignored. > > From the point of view of the VMs, they would still be using Modified > EUI-64 Interface Identifiers. This is not that different from the case > in which the admin sets the MAC address of an interface to some value > that he wants (other than the *real* address of the interface). IMHO, > this is out-of-scope for this document. > > Thanks! > > Best regards, > -- > Fernando Gont > e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@acm.org > PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
- draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt Ran Atkinson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… huabing yu
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… RJ Atkinson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… james woodyatt
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… RJ Atkinson
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Dan Wing
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Ran Atkinson
- Re: RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensio… Cameron Byrne
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… james woodyatt
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Paul Chilton
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Dan Wing
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Dan Wing
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Doug Barton
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Thomas Narten
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Townsley
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Townsley
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Scott W Brim
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… sthaug
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Doug Barton
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Ole Troan
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Christian Huitema
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… sthaug
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Brian Haley
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mohacsi Janos
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Yu Hua bing
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Rémi Després
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Fernando Gont
- Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-0… Mark Smith