Re: a draft about on-link and submit prefixes

sthaug@nethelp.no Tue, 14 March 2017 07:07 UTC

Return-Path: <sthaug@nethelp.no>
X-Original-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272DE1289B0 for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.202
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nkUeVDjKEmyp for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:07:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (bizet.nethelp.no [195.1.209.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6037126CD8 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:07:41 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (bizet.nethelp.no [IPv6:2001:8c0:9e04:500::1]) by bizet.nethelp.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D43E6065; Tue, 14 Mar 2017 08:07:40 +0100 (CET)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 08:07:39 +0100
Message-Id: <20170314.080739.74664517.sthaug@nethelp.no>
To: lorenzo@google.com
Subject: Re: a draft about on-link and submit prefixes
From: sthaug@nethelp.no
In-Reply-To: <CAKD1Yr3ncJkNwZgpWpr049K497iLAQ3dCzJ6dCHM1VsrC8UHog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJE_bqdd9OXOi+SZ8_OfGWXxEoKSfoR6=Lp3-_=vEaWbjx4udw@mail.gmail.com> <CAKD1Yr3ncJkNwZgpWpr049K497iLAQ3dCzJ6dCHM1VsrC8UHog@mail.gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/xMquq9id1dqBUPi3dyOoH800SOo>
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org, jinmei@wide.ad.jp
X-BeenThere: ipv6@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: "IPv6 Maintenance Working Group \(6man\)" <ipv6.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ipv6/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 07:07:44 -0000

> If possible, I would suggest making this document even more general. It's
> mostly geared to how implementations treat PIOs, and refers to RFC 4861 and
> RFC 4862, but really I think the clarifications it makes have much broader
> impact. As I see it, the core issues here are:
> 
>    - IPv6 addresses don't specify any on-link information
>    - For most (but not all) unicast addresses, subnet prefixes are 64 bits
>    per RFC 4291.
>    - A given subnet prefix can be spread across multiple links, and a given
>    link can support multiple subnet prefixes.
> 
> This is not immediately obvious to people who are familiar with the IPv4
> subnet model, because it is quite different.

I agree that a generalization is a good idea. In particular, it would
be good to have (in one place) a definition of what an IPv6 subnet is,
especially if a subnet can be spread across multiple links (which is
*not* obvious to me from reading RFC 4861 and RFC 4862).

Steinar Haug, AS2116