Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Tue, 07 December 2010 06:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > What we don't agree on is that the convenience of being able to go to > Node A and issue command(s) which make the necessary temporary config > changes (as opposed to going to Node A and B) justifies the introduction > of the Reverse Metric TLV and its associated complexities. I'd imagine anyone working daily using CLI to administer their large network would greatly appreciate this "convenience" as you call it. I pitched the idea to our ops guys and they were really enthusiastic about it, same thing with our NOC guys. I'd say it probably is the same convenience as having an automatic gearbox in your car. It's perfectly fine to shift manually (I personally only buy manual gearbox cars), but a lot of people like the convenience of having an automatic. Personally I think the work being done here the past 1-2 months when it comes to bringing more functionality into ISIS when it comes to more granularity to LAN (having bidir metric to the pseudo node) and the reverse metric functionality will make ISIS more usable long term, and it's important that we keep doing this. Just because this isn't the perfect solution (as "perfect" in this case would be "don't administer the network using CLI") I see nothing better on the horizon, so the proposed changes would be very welcome. Considering a lot of other "complexities" being implemented by people (RSVP-TE schemes with autobw re-route, MPLS-TP, 1588v2 etc), this seems as complex as a walk in the park. Put simply, the proposed changes to ISIS should have been done a long time ago to help the people who work daily to administrate these kinds of networks. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
- [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 mike shand
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 bruno.decraene
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Chen, Jay (Jay)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Shane Amante
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 bruno.decraene
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 bruno.decraene
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Christopher Liljenstolpe
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 Ilya Varlashkin
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-amante-isis-reverse-metric-01 stephane.litkowski