Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator Id)
mike shand <mshand@cisco.com> Thu, 22 April 2010 10:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator Id)
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On 22/04/2010 07:41, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > A couple of other comments that come to mind: > > We need to define what an implementation SHOULD do when it receives a > purged LSP with the additional TLVs i.e. store it (including the body) > and flood it unchanged. > Yes. I think that is what would be expected from the existing spec, but it does no harm to clarify it. I wonder if any existing implementations would take it upon themselves to remove the body from a purge? I hope not. > If the same purged LSP is received from two different originators, the > choice of which "copy" to flood is a local matter. > Hmmm. Would it not be the case that the first one received was always the one flooded, since any later ones received would be regarded as duplicates? > Les > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:25 PM >> To: Tony Li; lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; Jie Dong; >> bruno.decraene@orange-ftgroup.co; isis-wg@ietf.org; >> weifang@chinamobile.com >> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator Id) >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On >>> Behalf Of Tony Li >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:55 PM >>> To: lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; Jie Dong; bruno.decraene@orange- >>> ftgroup.co; isis-wg@ietf.org; weifang@chinamobile.com >>> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator Id) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I renamed the draft as draft-ietf-isis-purge-tlv-00.txt and >>>> >> submitted >> >>>> it to IETF. Its status is Initial Version Approval Requested. >>>> >>> >>> As long as that's stuck in the queue, there's not much point in >>> submitting a >>> -01 verison. So here's the document as an attachment. >>> >> But hopefully we can comment on 01 anyway?? :-) >> >> **************** >> >> I don't see the need for Section 3. It was interesting discussion >> material while we were debating the merits of making this a WG >> document, >> but I think it has drawbacks when it is included in what is intended >> > to > >> become a standards document. >> >> The first three points suggest (no doubt unintentionally) that this >> document may in some way be redefining/clarifying the base spec in >> regards to when it is permissible to purge. I don't think we want to >> even remotely suggest that. If you want to know when it is OK to >> > purge, > >> look at the base spec. >> >> In the second set of three points, only the first (which documents the >> lamentable purge on checksum error experience) has value. The last two >> are anecdotal and could be translated as "there are some weird bugs >> > out > >> there". Interesting - but unnecessary. The first point could be >> mentioned in the introduction as part of the justification for the >> protocol extensions - but I think even that is unnecessary. >> >> ******************** >> In Section 5 I would like to see language which says "hostname TLV >> SHOULD only be used in addition to the system ID TLV". As every IS >> > MUST > >> have a unique systemID but hostnames are optional I would prefer that >> if >> an implementation chooses to include the extra info in the purge that >> the system ID ALWAYS be there. (This is unenforceable of course) >> >> ******************* >> >> I think there needs to be language which makes clear that the absence >> or >> presence of this additional information has no impact on the >> > acceptance > >> of a purged LSP as valid i.e. no changes to the operation of the >> > Update > >> process are introduced by this draft. >> >> Thanx. >> >> Les >> >> >> >>> Tony >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Isis-wg mailing list >> Isis-wg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg >> > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > -- For corporate legal information go to: www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri
- [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Jie Dong
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Jie Dong
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… lizhenqiang
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… mike shand
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… lizhenqiang
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… lizhenqiang
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Dave Katz
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Dave Katz
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Tony Li
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Origin… Christian Hopps