Re: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator Id)

Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> Wed, 21 April 2010 21:21 UTC

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It sounds like there is general agreement that this would be useful.

I'll volunteer to make the document changes if someone would be so kind as
to send me the current XML source.

Thanks,
Tony



On 4/20/10 6:44 PM, "Jie Dong" <dongjie_dj@huawei.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi Bruno, all
> 
> I have no objections if there are some benefits of adding the hostname.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jie
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bruno.decraene@orange-ftgroup.com
>> [mailto:bruno.decraene@orange-ftgroup.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:18 PM
>> To: dongjie_dj@huawei.com; isis-wg@ietf.org;
>> lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; weifang@chinamobile.com
>> Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator Id)
>> 
>> Hi Jie, all
>> 
>>> Hostname would be helpful for network management and operation, thus
>>> rfc5301 defined the mechanism of dynamic hostname exchange.
>>>  
>>> On the other hand, if ISs already have the mapping from
>> System ID to 
>>> hostname, IMO it may be optional for purge packet to carry this
>>> information.
>> 
>> Some monitoring systems passively record ISIS messages.
>> Indeed, they could record the System ID - hostname mapping
>> from previous LSP, then use this database to enhance the
>> purge originator info. But it seems it would be easier for
>> them to have the name embedded in the purge message.
>> Not to mention for tools such as wireshark (and most probably
>> for logs and debugging tools)
>> 
>> Obviously, the decision to add the hostname is up to you and the WG.
>> IMHO, I see benefits (at least the above) and fail to see any
>> cost. Do you see any drawback?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Bruno 
>>  
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Jie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org
>>>> [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> bruno.decraene@orange-ftgroup.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 4:56 PM
>>>> To: isis-wg@ietf.org; lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com;
>>>> weifang@chinamobile.com
>>>> Subject: [Isis-wg] draft-wei-isis-tlv-03 (Purge Originator Id)
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Fang, Yue, Zhenqiang, Tony, Jie, all,
>>>> 
>>>> As the goal is to help the troubleshooting, and specifically to
>>>> locate the source IS, what about also adding the dynamic
>> hostname of 
>>>> the purge originator in addition to the system ID? (cf
>> existing TLV 
>>>> type 137)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bruno
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