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Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Sat, 30 July 2016 10:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Json] Working Group Last Call of draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7159bis-02
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I think this is an issue of trust, from both sides. For those not in a 
mood to trust ECMA, I suggest they trust our WG chairs and ADs.

(If everything goes really wrong, we can always issue a revision with 
the reference to the ECMA side removed.)

Regards,   Martin.

On 2016/07/29 01:13, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2016-07-28 18:05, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) wrote:
>> I agree that the document should not be published as an RFC until we
>> have the equivalent last-call doc from ECMA, and we do a coordinated
>> publish of the two documents.  But having our side ready to go,
>> including finishing AUTH48, will allow us to not be the bottleneck in
>> that process.
>
> Not sure. "approved" means "approved". I believe we need a mechanism
> that makes sure that the update of 404 not only happens, but that it
> also contains the change we expect.
>
>> I believe we have adequate protections in place with Alexey not
>> pushing the button until the right time, and making sure that the RFC
>> Production Center is aware of the dependency to what amounts to a
>> downref.
>>
>> Would it help if we replaced the ECMA-404 reference with a a ref to
>> ECMA-404bis (with details left out)?  That would make it *very* clear
>> to the RPC what we intend, and would trigger processes they have in
>> place to ensure the reference is resolved before publishing.
>
> I think that helps, but it's not sufficient.
>
> Best regards, Julian
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> PS: ...and we need a minor revision anyway; see prior feedback.
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