Re: [Last-Call] New Version Notification for draft-crocker-inreply-react-07.txt

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Tue, 02 March 2021 23:31 UTC

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To: Kjetil Torgrim Homme <kjetilho@ifi.uio.no>, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
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Hello Kjetil,

On 03/03/2021 08:08, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-03-02 at 13:40 -0800, Ned Freed wrote:
>>> I like the simple base-emoji rule.  After all, to support the full set
>>> of emojis as per the UTS51, you need Unicode 13 support, which is
>>> relatively new.
>>
>> Let's put this into perspective. Unicode 13 added 5930 characters. The
>> overwhelming majority of those (4939 characters) were CJK. Only 65 emoji were
>> added. You can view them here:
>>
>>     https://unicode.org/emoji/charts-13.0/emoji-released.html
>>
>> Obviously experiences vary, but none of these are things I've missed having
>> available to express a reaction.
> 
> What?  U+1F9A4 \N{dodo} is highly relevant as a reaction! :)
> 
> But I was a bit confused.  For Perl's part, they did not implement
> emoji properties until 5.32 as part of their incorporation of Unicode
> 13, since the Unicode Emoji wasn't included in Unicode proper until
> 13.0.  However, Unicode Emoji has, as a related standard, had these
> mechanisms since its version 2.0 from November 2015.

Emoji were always part of Unicode proper, some of them (e.g. the 
snowman) even way before they were called emoji. What changed between 
Unicode 12 and Unicode 13 is the location of some of the property data 
files in the data published by Unicode. That may have motivated Perl's 
change in implementation between these two versions.

[I know this because I'm in charge of the Ruby side of things; I have 
yet to update to Unicode 13.0, and the change in file location is one of 
the items on my plate.]

Regards,   Martin.