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Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net> Sat, 27 February 2021 00:16 UTC

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From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net>
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On 2/26/2021 4:07 PM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <cf05c85a-1674-5c23-2eff-6d5b7f9a3736@bbiw.net> you write:
>> On 2/26/2021 2:54 PM, John Levine wrote:

>> For example something like the common mechanism of showing the symbol
>> and then putting a count next to it, for the number of responses that
>> were received using it, does not work if the 'symbol' can be a long
>> string of arbitrary text.
> 
> It only works if there's a small controlled vocabulary, but it doesn't
> matter what the vocabulary is.  There are over 3500 Unicode emoji
> and exponentially more if you add modifiers like skin tone, so that's
> not very controlled either.


If there is, really, no limit to what can be put there, then there is, 
really, infinite variety possible for every message, in terms of the 
physical characteristics of what needs displaying.

If the vocabulary is merely graphic symbols, a natural working set will 
develop among a set of users, even if one isn't imposed.

The Ux design constraints between these two are quite different. The 
first is essentially unbounded (and I believe has little field 
experience beyond just being a message body portion.)

The second has quite a lot of field experience and is demonstrably useful.

There is a difference between attempting to specify the details of UI 
behavior, here, versus ignoring potential effects upon such designs.

There is also a difference between offering flexibility just because we 
can, versus offering it because it has clear utility.


d/


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net