Re: [lisp] Fwd: decentralization of Internet (was Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Sat, 07 September 2013 15:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] Fwd: decentralization of Internet (was Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA
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But what if the core didn't need to change and you key-n-encrypt before you map-n-encap. In fact you could combine the "key" part and "map" part together in the same lookup. 

I'm just saying.   :-)

Dino

> On Sep 7, 2013, at 6:05 AM, Roger Jørgensen <rogerj@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Roger Jørgensen <rogerj@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: decentralization of Internet (was Re: Bruce Schneier's
> Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the
> NSA
> To: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> Cc: IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_J=F8rgensen?= <rogerj@gmail.com>
>> 
>>> The userbase and deployment are relative small atm so it's doable to
>>> get fast deployment to.
>> 
>> Alas, now that I think about the practicalities.... I don't think the average
>> router has enough spare computing power to completely encrypt all the traffic.
> 
> I don't really see that as an issue, it's just a matter of engineering
> and building
> the router in a way that they can do it. AFAIK I think most routers have the
> options of being extended by dedicated encrypt-all-traffic tasks? Probably some
> changes needed on the software layer to use the extension but that's doable.
> 
> It is also just the situation right now on the router side. In general
> should our
> current technology and processing power be up for the job if needed.
> 
> 
>> Whether or not encrypting just the source+dest addresses, and the sort+dest
>> port (conviently next to each other in one block) is enough to do much good,
>> and if the average router has enough spare crunch to do even that, is a good
>> question.
> 
> Isn't the payload the important part to protect? the content of the package?
> 
> 
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