IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [lisp] decentralization of Internet (was Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Sat, 07 September 2013 12:36 UTC

Return-Path: <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4336111E8130 for <lisp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 05:36:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -5.864
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.864 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.465, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_64=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jDFYx533wMOz for <lisp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 05:36:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25E211E80E2 for <lisp@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 05:36:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 892ED18C0F1; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 08:36:16 -0400 (EDT)
To: lisp@ietf.org
Message-Id: <20130907123616.892ED18C0F1@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:36:16 -0400
From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Re: [lisp] decentralization of Internet (was Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA
X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol <lisp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/lisp>, <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/lisp>
List-Post: <mailto:lisp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp>, <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 12:36:29 -0000

    > From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_J=F8rgensen?= <rogerj@gmail.com>

    > The userbase and deployment are relative small atm so it's doable to
    > get fast deployment to.

Alas, now that I think about the practicalities.... I don't think the average
router has enough spare computing power to completely encrypt all the traffic.

Whether or not encrypting just the source+dest addresses, and the sort+dest
port (conviently next to each other in one block) is enough to do much good,
and if the average router has enough spare crunch to do even that, is a good
question.

	Noel

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email