Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-02
Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Wed, 08 October 2014 18:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-02
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Hi Marc, On 10/8/14 2:15 PM, Marc Binderberger wrote: > Hello Joel, authors and lisp list, > > while I think the document is overall reasonably written it has one problem: > it's bound to an proposed EID address block that has no guaranteed end of > life. > > If this experiment would clearly terminate after 3+3 years then I would say > it's good to go. It's not the way the RIRs have written their documents but I > think that's okay for a experiment and a 6 year time frame. But the proposals > allow the requested /32 EID block to be turned into something permanently. > For a permanent EID block it's reasonable to assume the RIRs deal with the > allocation/assignment work ([1]) and then the document would need more > alignment with RIR policy documents. A simple example would be the language, > "allocation" is used throughout while "assignment" is only mentioned in the > Introduction. I checked both ARIN and RIPE and it's clearly defined there. > It's also going too far in telling IANA to not have a regional policy. > > > So in short (and in all honesty): not feeling comfortable with the document > in the context of a potential permanent impact of the document. > The eid-block draft (section 6, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-09#section-6) discusses the transition to a degree if the allocation were to become permanent. The brief discussions I have had with RIR folks is that they would expect allocations out of this address block to be managed by RIRs if it were to become permanent. Regards, Brian > > Regards, Marc > > [1]: if the proposal is to have finally an additional authority beside the > RIRs for address allocation then I would reject the proposal. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 09:14:16 -0400, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >> All, >> >> The work on the draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-02 seems done and the >> authors requested a work group last call. >> >> This email starts a 14 day WG last call, to end CoB PDT October 22, 2014. >> >> You will find the document here: >> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-02.txt >> >> Please review this WG document. Let the working group know if you agree >> that it is ready for handing to the AD, or if you see issues with it. If >> you see issues, please be as specific as possible about the problems, and >> if possible suggest text to resolve them. >> >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >> > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >
- [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Marc Binderberger
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Brian Haberman
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Marc Binderberger
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… David Conrad
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Marc Binderberger
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Marc Binderberger
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Marc Binderberger
- Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-bl… Luigi Iannone