Re: [lisp] draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-01 - Call for WG Adoption

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Thu, 04 December 2014 16:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-01 - Call for WG Adoption
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> I like that you're doing this work so am supportive. I think

Yes, we have included you guys from the get-go, per Joel's good suggestion. Your expertise was useful to make us understand where the state of the art in cryptography is.

> it'd be good to try get some security folks to review before

Brian Weis have been involved but we will also call on you guys. My plan is to get comments from Brian, wait for the two week period to end, so I can update the draft and change name to draft-ietf-lisp. And then, the first rev of the working group draft will reflect the solicitation of comments from you folks.

> folks get too far in implementations, but I'm not sure when
> that'd be. But feel free to hassle me or Kathleen and we can
> try get that done when you think it's the right time, i.e.

Give us a few weeks and when Brian can get to commenting draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-01.

> just before folks start coding or making hard to change design
> decisions.

Too late. ;-)  But then again, that is the only way to build a good draft.

> Thanks,
> S.
> 
> PS: the above is based on the saag presentation Dino did and
> a very quick scan of the document, I've not read it in detail
> yet.

Right, we are in sync.

Thanks for the support,
Dino

> 
> On 04/12/14 11:27, Luigi Iannone wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> During the 91st IETF authors of the draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-01
>> [https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-01] 
>> asked for WG adoption. Meeting participants expressed consensus on adoption.
>> 
>> This message begins the two weeks call for WG adoption to confirm the meeting outcome. 
>> The call ends on  December 19th 2014.
>> 
>> Please respond to the LISP mailing list with any statements of approval or disapproval.
>> 
>> Recall that:
>> 
>> - This is not WG Last Call. The document is not final, and the WG is expected to 
>>  modify the document’s content until there is WG consensus that the content is solid.  
>>  Therefore, please don’t oppose adoption just because you want to see changes to its content.
>> 
>> - If you have objections to adoption of the document, please state your reasons why, 
>>  and explain what it would take to address your concerns.
>> 
>> - If you have issues with the content, by all means raise those issues and we can 
>>  begin a dialog about how best to address them.
>> 
>> 
>> Luigi and Joel
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