Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: Anomaly inupcomingregistry)
"Debbie Garside" <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk> Wed, 15 July 2009 07:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: Anomaly inupcomingregistry)
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Doug wrote: > I think there are still some basic concepts to be worked out > since that post 2½ years ago. For example, John Cowan has > since suggested using 5-character variant subtags starting > with "6" to hold ISO 639-6 code elements, instead of using > the 4-letter language subtags reserved for > (shhhh) this purpose. That wasn't mentioned in the November > 2006 post, but it's something we would have to decide upon. Actually Peter constable suggested 5 characters some 6/7 years ago when I first joined the list. I really don't have the time at present to enter into in-depth discussions on the inclusion/benefits/problems of incorporating ISO 639-6 especially as it would appear to be an uphill battle. I would rather wait until the standard is published and somebody comes along and states their need. Best regards Debbie > -----Original Message----- > From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Doug Ewell > Sent: 15 July 2009 03:24 > To: LTRU Working Group > Subject: Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: > Anomaly inupcomingregistry) > > Debbie Garside <debbie at ictmarketing dot co dot uk> wrote: > > >> So far we haven't seen any proposal that accomplishes all three > >> goals. > > > > I think we pretty much worked this out a few years ago... See > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ltru/current/msg06482.html > > But as I said in my previous message, I am not quite ready > yet as it > > will involve some flagging of the data. > > I think there are still some basic concepts to be worked out > since that post 2½ years ago. For example, John Cowan has > since suggested using 5-character variant subtags starting > with "6" to hold ISO 639-6 code elements, instead of using > the 4-letter language subtags reserved for > (shhhh) this purpose. That wasn't mentioned in the November > 2006 post, but it's something we would have to decide upon. > > Randy Presuhn <randy underscore presuhn at mindspring dot > com> replied: > > > I'd really like to know the what language tagging problem would be > > fixed by digging into 639-6, what the payoff (in terms of > users served > > or content tagged) would be, and why a working group would be > > necessary to cope with it. > > Well, that's exactly what I said before: we need to know. We > don't need to recharter the WG to find out these facts if we > can have the discussion now. Of course, having the text of > the standard and the data available would help immensely, but > that's not available now, so we're left to do some guessing > and projecting. > > -- > Doug Ewell * Thornton, Colorado, USA * RFC 4645 * UTN > #14 http://www.ewellic.org > http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html > http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru >
- [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: Anom… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering (to handle 639-6 or other… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Gerard Meijssen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (wasFW:An… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- [Ltru] Rechartering (in general) Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … CE Whitehead
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Broome, Karen