RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes

"Debbie Garside" <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk> Fri, 30 September 2005 08:02 UTC

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From: Debbie Garside <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk>
To: 'Addison Phillips' <addison.phillips@quest.com>, 'Randy Presuhn' <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>, ltru@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:02:09 +0100
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Hi Addison

My suggestion was to replace ONLY the first paragraph and to leave the other
paragraphs in place.  Indeed it might be wise to put an example in of a
prefix where it is mutually intelligible and another where it isn't.

Best regards

Debbie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Addison Phillips
> Sent: 29 September 2005 23:45
> To: Randy Presuhn; ltru@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes
> 
> So then...
> 
> --
> Users should note that the set of language tags that match a specific
> language-range MAY NOT be mutually intelligible, although historically
> this form of matching has proven useful.
> --
> 
> Note the: s/implementers/users (implementations care not a bit; range-
> choosing folks using implementations are the ones that care).
> 
> There are some problems with removing the full verbosity of the original
> proposal: it also excludes the examples and it excludes a specific note
> about Suppress-Script, an issue that I recall some people were quite
> concerned about. How about (note that this moves the suggested sentence up
> into a preceding paragraph not previously quoted):
> 
> --
> <t>That is, a language-range has the same syntax as a language-tag or is
> the
> single character "*". Basic Language Ranges imply that
> there is a semantic relationship between language tags that share the same
> prefix. While this is often the case, it is not always true and users
> should note that the set of language tags that match a specific language-
> range may not be mutually intelligible.</t>
> 
> <t>Users SHOULD avoid subtags that add no distinguishing value to a
> language range. For example, script subtags SHOULD NOT be used to form a
> language range with language subtags which have a matching Suppress-Script
> field in their registry record. Thus the language range "en-Latn" is
> probably inappropriate for most applications (because the vast majority
> English documents are written in the Latin script and thus the 'en'
> language subtag has a Suppress-Script field for 'Latn' in the registry).
> </t>
> --
> 
> Addison P. Phillips
> Globalization Architect, Quest Software
> Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group
> 
> Internationalization is not a feature.
> It is an architecture.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> > Randy Presuhn
> > Sent: jeudi 29 septembre 2005 14:01
> > To: ltru@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > > From: "Debbie Garside" <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk>
> > > To: "'Addison Phillips'" <addison.phillips@quest.com>; "'Frank
> > Ellermann'" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>; <ltru@ietf.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:56 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes
> > ...
> > > In a nutshell:
> > >
> > > "Implementers should note that the set of language tags that match a
> > > specific language-range prefix MAY not be mutually intelligible;
> > although
> > > historically this form of matching has proved useful."
> > >
> > > Debbie
> > ...
> >
> > s/MAY/may/  -- this is clearly not intended with normative force
> >
> > To avoid confusion, we might say "might correspond to
> > mutually unintelligible languages"
> >
> > s/proved/proven/   --  if the editors prefer.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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