Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-manet-olsrv2-etx-01
Henning Rogge <henning.rogge@fkie.fraunhofer.de> Tue, 24 May 2011 14:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-manet-olsrv2-etx-01
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On Mon May 23 2011 19:46:46 Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > > > > How can packet sizes of lost packets be measured? > > > > > > Maybe with a second packet sequence number that is only increased for > > > > > > large packets ? > > If we want exact information it seems that the source or dest_nieghbours > may inform the destination of the lost packets sizes if requested by the > destination. The source should be able to list all the sent packets SQ > number with its size index by the packets destinations. The destination > sends to source a request of the sizes of packets (using special packet > for measure). This might require a huge amount of data inside the packages because long bursts of packages might be lost. > Or more simple method can be called the size SQ method proposed above, so > the source, path_nodes and destination are counting the packet by possible > categorized of size information/measured. We may have second/third/more > sequence (size_sequence) in three or four as very large, large, medium, > small. Therefore, when the dest size sequence count is different from the > source it will notice the lost and measure the size. On Tue May 24 2011 15:37:30 Georg Wittenburg wrote: > Hi Henning, all, > > I see. And I agree with you that in this case you would indeed need a > second counter just for relevant packets. Possibly another TLV, if the > overhead is acceptable. I think it should be acceptable, we might even get away with a single byte sequence number, because we can detect overflows (more than 255 lost packages) with the help of the default package number. Links which lost 200+ packages in a row would most likely be considered very bad anyways. Henning Rogge -- Diplom-Informatiker Henning Rogge , Fraunhofer-Institut für Kommunikation, Informationsverarbeitung und Ergonomie FKIE Kommunikationssysteme (KOM) Neuenahrer Straße 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany Telefon +49 228 9435-961, Fax +49 228 9435 685 mailto:henning.rogge@fkie.fraunhofer.de http://www.fkie.fraunhofer.de GPG: E1C6 0914 490B 3909 D944 F80D 4487 C67C 55EC CFE0
- [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-manet-ol… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Teco Boot
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… David Young
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… David Young
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge