Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-manet-olsrv2-etx-01
Teco Boot <teco@inf-net.nl> Fri, 13 May 2011 15:53 UTC
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Op 13 mei 2011, om 16:23 heeft Georg Wittenburg het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> The problem is >>> that packet delivery ratios differ depending on the size of the >>> transmitted packet. If small packets are used to estimate link quality, >>> this estimate will be flawed if the link is used for large packets later >>> on, i.e, packets that make full use of the MTU. A workaround would be to >>> require that if HELLO packets are to be used for link quality estimation >>> then they must be padded to correspond in size to the average data >>> packet, or MTU. >> >> The funkfeuer metric drafts suggests to use all RFC 5444 packets for link >> loss estimation, not only a certain message type. Your suggestion would >> make it necessary to pad all RFC5444 packets to the maximum MTU, which >> might be a considerable overhead. > > I agree. However, it still remains true that link loss estimation that relies > excessively on small packets will lead to suboptimal results. I'm aware that > the original ETX paper doesn't cover this, but it doesn't mean that it > shouldn't be addressed in this draft. > > How about, for example, only incrementing the respective counters for packets > whose size is above a certain threshold, say MTU / 2 (or even MTU / 4)? How can packet sizes of lost packets be measured? Teco
- [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-manet-ol… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Teco Boot
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… David Young
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… David Young
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Georg Wittenburg
- Re: [manet] Some comments on draft-funkfeuer-mane… Henning Rogge