Re: [Manycouches] DOGFOOD Virtual BoF

Let me try to step back:

We now have regularily a large number of remote participants.

How about we designate one mailing list for discussions about that
remote experience, then we might get a more organic incremental growth
from where we are today a better place. Heck, we SHOULD (IMHO) even
subscribe people automatically to such a mailing list during registration
as a remote attendant.

In the absence of such a mailing list i can see how many remote
participants will be too fearful to complain/ask-for-help on the
larger ietfxxx-attendees mailing list or he even larger ietf mailing
list.

Right now i only see vmeet an manycouches as possible existing lists
(just looking for wort "remote").  Not sure if either of these would
be well suited to be redesignated to this purpose. 

With something where remote users will free to talk more openly
we might both propagate BCP of remote tools easier, but also identify
next-to-be-closed-gaps faster. And if there is an interest for remote
users to share couches, that too can easily be discussed with more
candidate users on tthe list.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 05:08:01PM -0800, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We still have some IETF Boston Hub meetings - Rich Salz  and Dale Worley  have picked up the ball after I dropped it; Ted's been to them.
> > ietf-africa@ discusses IETF hubs frequently around IETF meetings & they seem to happen.
> > India (and there's an India Internet Society now) has an "RFCs We Love" series and also has been doing a yearly
> > conference right before the Asian IETF.  
> > 
> > Much of this is documented (though old) on the IETF Outreach wiki page.  
> > 
> > As it became clear that the work required more than a part-time volunteer & I became discouraged and had to focus on my
> > new role/job, I've not kept up.  It's not clear that there's an organizational appetite to help drive this - and volunteers have
> > shifting priorities.
> 
> FWIW, I think one of the problems with the hub idea is that it doesn???t really do much of what we need.   It???s good for just developing social connection, but none of the people I collaborate with regularly are in Boston at the moment, and it???s a two hour drive for me, so a pretty heavy lift for not much return.   I think that???s why it hasn???t gained momentum.
> 
> A real solution to this problem should start with online collaboration, and figure out what we need over and above that, rather than starting with the social connection problem, important though it is, and figuring out how to replicate it.
> 

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