Re: [Manycouches] DOGFOOD Virtual BoF

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 12 February 2020 01:08 UTC

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On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
> We still have some IETF Boston Hub meetings - Rich Salz  and Dale Worley  have picked up the ball after I dropped it; Ted's been to them.
> ietf-africa@ discusses IETF hubs frequently around IETF meetings & they seem to happen.
> India (and there's an India Internet Society now) has an "RFCs We Love" series and also has been doing a yearly
> conference right before the Asian IETF.  
> 
> Much of this is documented (though old) on the IETF Outreach wiki page.  
> 
> As it became clear that the work required more than a part-time volunteer & I became discouraged and had to focus on my
> new role/job, I've not kept up.  It's not clear that there's an organizational appetite to help drive this - and volunteers have
> shifting priorities.

FWIW, I think one of the problems with the hub idea is that it doesn’t really do much of what we need.   It’s good for just developing social connection, but none of the people I collaborate with regularly are in Boston at the moment, and it’s a two hour drive for me, so a pretty heavy lift for not much return.   I think that’s why it hasn’t gained momentum.

A real solution to this problem should start with online collaboration, and figure out what we need over and above that, rather than starting with the social connection problem, important though it is, and figuring out how to replicate it.