Re: [Manycouches] DOGFOOD Virtual BoF

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 16:39, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

>  At the BoF we had a round table discussion about what peoples ideas were
> for getting the IETF into a new mode of operation that makes better use of
> the technology we’ve developed,
>

I think we ought to question even the tools and not assume that the current
tools as we have now are the best ones for the new approach we want to try.
If there's some more effective tool out there, let's find it and try it.
It's better to settle on current tools with the secure knowledge that we've
tried the alternatives.

>
> I would like to try out some of the stuff that Wes talked about in his
> presentation at HotRFC: rather than just doing a normal BoF, I’d like to
> see if we can use existing tools to achieve some of what Wes described.
> We will still want to do some online video discussion, but I’d also like to
> try using a Wiki and an interim-only mailing list as the primary
> communication method, and do the BoF over two days to give us time to
> participate in the way Wes described.   This may fail miserably or may go
> well—we can only find out by trying.
>

Agree about moving into action. Could we start by having an online page
somewhere which states what we're trying to accomplish and gives context?
An email chain might not be the best way to do this. It could be

- wiki
- dropbox paper
- google doc
- etc etc

I'd suggest it be structured in the form of an experiment in a form like

Objective: Run a BoF completely with no travel
├ Key Result #1: 100% of BOF planning and execution done completely online
├ Key Result #2: 50% of those who sign up for the BoF stick through till
the end
├ Key Result #3: 75% of those who stick to the end agree to sign up for a
second BoF

The numbers we can play with.

>
> If we go ahead with this, one of the things I will ask is that you add to
> the Wiki your recollection of what you said in the bar BoF.   I at least
> didn’t take notes, and I don’t think Wes did either, but I think there was
> a lot of useful stuff exchanged there.
>

I sure will

>
> Does anybody object to this approach?   If I don’t hear loud objections,
> I’ll set up a wiki and ask people to work on it; I’d like it if we could do
> that work *before* the interim so that at the interim we can talk about
> it and form some ideas for experimentation.
>
> Thanks!
>
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