Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup
Alf Watt <alf.watt@ruckuswireless.com> Tue, 29 January 2013 18:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup
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I think Andrew's point is worth taking the time to seriously consider. We already have dynamic DNS update but as previously mentioned configuration of the DNS server and it's clients out has proven to be either too difficult or not of interest to various OS vendors. It's worth mentioning that Apple has all the parts in place to pull this off: - A Server OS with an embedded DNS server which they provide a UI to manage - Traditional and Mobile Clients with mDNSResolvers running on them - A profile distribution system which make pushing configuration options including keys easy Given the will to get the features implemented Apple could solve part of the problem this without any changes to mdns. There are still things that fall outside of that scope which we should consider, but ignoring the opportunity to uses the existing protocols seems like a lot of effort to reproduce work that already exists. Best, Alf On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:03 PM, mdnsext-request@ietf.org<mailto:mdnsext-request@ietf.org> wrote: From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>> Subject: Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Date: January 28, 2013 9:34:00 AM PST To: <mdnsext@ietf.org<mailto:mdnsext@ietf.org>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:51:02AM -0500, RJ Atkinson wrote: Some of us would like to see mDNS support multiple IP subnets (e.g. multiple buildings, multiple groups, multiple (V)LANs) within a single administrative domain (e.g. university campus, corporate campus). This implies having a straight-forward way to configure networking devices (e.g. firewalls, routers) at the edge of one's administrative domain to exclude certain interfaces (e.g. exterior uplink interfaces) from all mDNS traffic of the administrative domain using mDNS. I still do not understand why this sort of thing isn't better handled by vastly improved tools for real DNS management. It seems to me that people are asking for a single, unifed namespace outside the link-local context, and we invented a mechanism for that many years ago. The problem is that the support tools for that mechanism sort of suck. Instead of inventing a new protocol which, by definition, is going to run into conflicts with the existing protocols in this space, why wouldn't it be better to take that energy and expend it on the missing tools? A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>
- [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Alf Watt
- [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup nudge
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Brian Dickson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Tim Chown
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup peter van der Stok
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Dan Harkins
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Alf Watt
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Stephen Orr (sorr)
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup nudge
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup vortex
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup vortex
- [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Olivier Levon
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup James Andrewartha
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup James Andrewartha
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Michael Richardson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Michael Richardson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Joe Touch
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Joe Touch
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Johnson, Neil M
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Joe Touch