Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 07 February 2013 16:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup
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>>>>> "RJ" == RJ Atkinson <rja.lists@gmail.com> writes: >> The problem I see is that, because of historical practice, >> attempting to treat (2) as a special case of (1) will mean that >> names designed to be local to (1) will leak into (3). RJ> The claim above is not obviously true for several reasons: RJ> A) Split-horizon DNS deployments have been around since the RJ> 1990s at least. THese are widely deployed. Few problems have RJ> arisen in practice, as a percentage of split-horizon RJ> deployments. Yes, problems could arise, for example if a human RJ> misconfigures something, but it isn't inherent in a RJ> split-horizon DNS deployment. There are significant problems with split-horizon. They didn't show up until we had nomadic devices like laptops and now smartphones. Consider that the MIF WG has an entire draft to attempting to solve this problem (I think it's a total fail though) Big organizations have fewer problems because they know how to deploy the right infrastructure and do the right configuration and training for end(remote) notes, but smaller (dis)organizations basically devolve to using IP address literals for all internal hosts ("intranet"s) because of road warriors and VPNs and the like. That's why mDNS has been such a success, and why in homenet and here there has been such a big discussion about what is .site, because nobody wants to type IPv6 literals, and yet v6 global end addressability is making people realize that they will want (some) connectivity. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
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- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Dan Harkins
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- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup James Andrewartha
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Michael Richardson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Michael Richardson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup David Farmer
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
- Re: [mdnsext] mDNSext features/requirements rollup RJ Atkinson
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