Re: [mmox] IETF policy question

Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> Fri, 27 March 2009 17:51 UTC

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Hello;

I am not wearing any hats here, and this is my own opinion.

On Mar 25, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Heiner Wolf wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Assumed there are multiple systems with incompatible architecture,
> each sophisticated and with it's own protocols.
> Assumed that we as a WG do not know enough about the general problem  
> space.

This to me sounds like an IRTF Research Group should be chartered.  
(I.e., it sounds like there is
research, not just engineering, here.)

>
> Assumed that there are sub-groups which know enough about their
> problem and have working solutions.
>

This is not clear to me. Do you mean "there are sub-pieces A, B, C,...  
of the problem,
and for at least some of the sub-pieces there are working solutions  
and groups willing to work on them"

or

"there are alternative proposals A, B, C,... and for at least some of  
these proposals
there are working solutions and groups willing to work on them"

For the first situation, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with the  
WG taking a bottom up approach,
or spinning off WG to focus on the pieces. It depends on the details,  
of course.

If the second applies, you may be about to learn about the rough part  
of rough consensus.

Regards
Marshall

> What would the IETF do?
> 1. task one of the sub-groups to standardize one of the
> protocol/architecture variants, although it might leave a large part
> of the community out of the loop, while having at least a hope to
> defeat fragmentation in the future
> ...or...
> 2. do not standardize at IETF level, which might be good for the
> competition of ideas and allows the community to learn more about the
> general problem space, but preserves fragmentation unless the market
> cleans it up.
>
> I am really undecided, but there is probably BCP in the IETF.
>
> Best
> -- 
> Dr. Heiner Wolf
> wolf.heiner@gmail.com
> www.wolfspelz.de
> www.virtual-presence.org
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