Re: [mmox] IETF policy question

Heiner, your question presupposes that incompatibilities make it impossible
to find common areas of interop, and you then ask what the IETF can do about
it.  I think that your premise does not reflect the actual situation, but
only reflects that some parties have not been willing to build bridges so
far, and just keep making position statements instead.

If MMOX were an *engineering* team, the way ahead would be clear.  We would
break down the problem space into pieces based on the needs of many
different worlds, and then we would find a model and protocol for decoupled
services that is applicable to all the architectures involved.

I would like to point out that the second letter of IETF stands for *
Engineering*.  Maybe the only advice needed from the IETF is that this group
should try to use more engineering methodology and break down problems.  If
the preceding paragraph were our M.O., the difficulties would soon be
disentangled and suitable solutions would appear quite quickly.

Morgaine.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Heiner Wolf <wolf.heiner@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Assumed there are multiple systems with incompatible architecture,
> each sophisticated and with it's own protocols.
> Assumed that we as a WG do not know enough about the general problem space.
> Assumed that there are sub-groups which know enough about their
> problem and have working solutions.
>
> What would the IETF do?
> 1. task one of the sub-groups to standardize one of the
> protocol/architecture variants, although it might leave a large part
> of the community out of the loop, while having at least a hope to
> defeat fragmentation in the future
> ...or...
> 2. do not standardize at IETF level, which might be good for the
> competition of ideas and allows the community to learn more about the
> general problem space, but preserves fragmentation unless the market
> cleans it up.
>
> I am really undecided, but there is probably BCP in the IETF.
>
> Best
> --
> Dr. Heiner Wolf
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