Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements]
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements]
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All, I'm very much on the same page as Stewart. With one caveat, the response from the operators in this 2nd WGLC is diminishing, as compared to the first WGLC. Not a big difference, but nevertheless. I think it is important to have an operator support for requirement documents. First, I will not object if the shepherd/chairs decide to send the document to the IESG with a request for publication. However, I think it will be returned with a request to show operator support. What I think should happen now is that the shepherd/chairs keep the WGLC open waiting for comments from operators. /Loa than it was for the document in the first WGLC (not much) > Yes, I think we are finished to the point where the wider review and editorial process can take over. > Stewart >> On 30 Mar 2024, at 5:45â¯pm, Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote: Having reread the document, it seems to me we are at the point of significantly diminishing returns in terms of tuning. While I have seen >> some useful comments on the list that can be addressed, my basic reaction is "ship it". >> Yours, >> Joel >>> On 3/28/2024 4:01 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: >>> I'm kind of giving you all a ticking clock reminder. >>> Of course, I'm no longer a WG chair, so I won't be calling consensus on >>> this, but I will be answering the shepherd write-up question that asks what >>> the consensus was like on this document. >>> If, as the general noise on the list implies, people care about MNA, then >>> commenting during this last call seems important. >>> Cheers, >>> Adrian >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mpls <mpls-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel >>> Sent: 21 March 2024 15:21 >>> To: 'mpls' <mpls@ietf.org> >>> Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on >>> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements >>> Hi all, >>> I know it is IETF week and you all have other things to do (nice meals, >>> sight-seeing, combatting jet-lag), but I just wanted to remind you to look >>> at this document and make your comments about the last call. >>> With last calls, silence generally means no support! >>> Best, >>> Adrian >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mpls <mpls-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel >>> Sent: 12 March 2024 16:46 >>> To: 'mpls' <mpls@ietf.org> >>> Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements@ietf.org >>> Subject: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on >>> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements >>> This email starts a second MPLS working group last call on >>> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements. >>> (You may recall that the first last call produced a lot of discussion and >>> issues that Matthew, as editor, has worked valiantly to resolve.) Please re-review the document (it has changed a lot since last time) and >>> express an opinion on the list. >>> - Is the document complete? >>> - Does it contain any errors? >>> - Is it ready to move forward for publication as an Informational RFC? There is no IPR disclosed against this document or its predecessors. All >>> authors, contributors, and active working group participants are reminded of >>> their responsibilities under BCP 79. >>> This last call will run for three weeks (covering the IETF period). It will >>> end at 17.00 UTC on Tuesday 2nd April (narrowly avoiding ending on 1st April >>> and confusing us all). >>> Thanks, >>> Adrian (for the MPLS chairs) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
- [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-ietf-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Matthew Bocci (Nokia)
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Working G… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Acee Lindem
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Tony Li
- [mpls] * abbreviations in the RFC Editors list (w… loa
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Joel Halpern
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Joel Halpern
- Re: [mpls] * abbreviations in the RFC Editors lis… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] * abbreviations in the RFC Editors lis… Acee Lindem
- Re: [mpls] * abbreviations in the RFC Editors lis… loa
- Re: [mpls] * abbreviations in the RFC Editors lis… Acee Lindem
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… loa
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] * abbreviations in the RFC Editors lis… loa
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Tony Li
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Andrew Alston
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… John Drake
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Igor Malyushkin
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Igor Malyushkin
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Matthew Bocci (Nokia)
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… John Drake
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] Do you care about MNA? [Was: 2nd Worki… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] 2nd Working Group Last call on draft-i… Andrew Alston