Re: [Mtgvenue] Martin Vigoureux's Yes on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-15: (with COMMENT)

Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> Wed, 06 June 2018 23:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Martin Vigoureux's Yes on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-15: (with COMMENT)
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Hello Pete,

many thanks for your answer.
So, maybe it's only a language barrier. What is the definition of race 
in this document?

Thank you
martin


Le 2018-06-05 à 21:47, Pete Resnick a écrit :
> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thanks for the comment.
> 
> Just so we have the context, here's the text in section 2.1:
> 
> |2. Avoid meeting in countries with laws that effectively exclude people 
> on the basis of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, national 
> origin, citizenship, or gender identity. |
> 
> In some contexts, "race" is not completely contained in "ethnicity" 
> (sometimes also called "ethnic origin"), and certainly not vice-versa. 
> The UN Office of the High Commissioner on Human Rights uses both terms 
> in their definition:
> 
> "Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, whatever our 
> nationality, place of residence, sex, national or ethnic origin, colour, 
> religion, language, or any other status."
> 
> "The principle applies to everyone in relation to all human rights and 
> freedoms and it prohibits discrimination on the basis of a list of 
> non-exhaustive categories such as sex, race, colour and so on."
> 
> http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Pages/WhatareHumanRights.aspx
> 
> I've seen other formulations of the list. I don't think there's a 
> problem to add "ethnicity" to the list in this document.
> 
> pr
> 
> On 5 Jun 2018, at 7:41, Martin Vigoureux wrote:
> 
>     Martin Vigoureux has entered the following ballot position for
>     draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-15: Yes
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>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     COMMENT:
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> 
>     Hello,
> 
>     please forgive me for raising the following point, especially
>     because I haven't
>     participated in nor followed the discussions on that draft, but I
>     would much
>     prefer if "ethnicity" was used instead of "race".
> 
>     Martin
>