Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-requirements
Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Mon, 04 December 2006 15:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-requirements
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I have not looked into HAHA yet, but from your description below it does not seem to cause routing problems. It is common to advertise prefixes from multiple locations. --Jari RYUJI WAKIKAWA kirjoitti: > Hi Jari, > > I want to make sure one item whether it breaks new requirements or not. > > We have been discussing multiple HAs usage (global-haha) in NEMO WG. > It is not clear yet whether we will pick this in a WG item, but maybe > in future. > This global HAHA advertises block of home prefixes to BGP in anycast > fashion, > but dynamic change of BGP entries is not occurred. > > regards, > ryuji > > > On 2006/12/04, at 23:45, Jari Arkko wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> We reviewed this draft in the IESG, and Ross raised >> a requirement that he thinks is important but is not >> listed in the current document. It is about the effect >> to the Internet routing tables. Please find a suggested >> edit below. We thought that this change is large >> enough that the WG needs to be consulted, even >> if the requirement is fulfilled by NEMO BSP. So, >> if you have a problem with this change let us know >> by the end of the week (Dec 8th). >> >> NEW Section 3.12: >> >> 3.12 Minimal Impact on Internet Routing >> >> Any NEMO solution(s) needs have minimal negative effect on the >> global Internet routing system. The solution must therefore limit both >> the amount of information that must be injected into Internet routing, >> as well as the dynamic changes in the information that is injected >> into the global routing system. >> >> As one example of why this is necessary, consider the approach of >> advertising each mobile network's connectivity into BGP, and for >> every movement withdrawing old routes and injecting new routes. >> If there were tens of thousands of mobile networks each advertising >> and withdrawing routes, for example, at the speed that an airplane can >> move from one ground station to another, the potential effect on BGP >> could be very unfortunate. In this example the total amount of routing >> information advertised into BGP may be acceptable, but the dynamic >> instability of the information (ie, the number of changes over time) >> would be unacceptable. >> >> NEW requirement to be added to the end of Section 4: >> >> R17: The solution should have a minimal impact on the >> global Internet routing system. >> >> > > >
- [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-requir… Jari Arkko
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… RYUJI WAKIKAWA
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Jari Arkko
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Jari Arkko
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Jari Arkko
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… RYUJI WAKIKAWA
- RE: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Davis, Terry L
- RE: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Thierry Ernst
- RE: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Narayanan, Vidya
- RE: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [nemo] new requirement for draft-ietf-nemo-re… Jari Arkko