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Re: [netmod] Y34

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Sat, 01 August 2015 06:52 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Y34
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:46:49PM -0400, Lou Berger wrote:
> Andy,
> 
> On 07/27/2015 12:58 PM, Andy Bierman wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I don't think a standard for relocating subtrees would be worth it.
> > I am not in favor of moving /interfaces or /system to a new location.
> > That's not how YANG works. It only allows "obsolete and start over".
> > 
> > I would suggest pursuing solutions that don't cause
> > as much disruption and expense as possible.
> > 
> 
> I think it would be really good to explore other, less "disruptive"
> options.
>

I think the first step is to find out whether there is a problem worth
to be fixed. Why are the RFCs in question broken? (Yes, I have read
the openconfig IDs, I listened to the virtual interim meetings, I
assume you have read draft-bjorklund-netmod-openconfig-reply.)

Lets get the core of the openconfig argument on the table why the
existing RFCs are flawed.

/js

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