Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount
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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
To: "Robert Wilton -X (rwilton - ENSOFT LIMITED at Cisco)" <rwilton@cisco.com>, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz>, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
Thread-Topic: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount
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Subject: Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount
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On 8/3/16, 5:02 AM, "netmod on behalf of Robert Wilton -X (rwilton - ENSOFT LIMITED at Cisco)" <netmod-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rwilton@cisco.com> wrote: > > >On 03/08/2016 07:49, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>> On 02 Aug 2016, at 18:35, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> If we allow foo and foo-state for opstate, mounting models atop such a >>>multi rooted yang module will be fun. >>> mount modB-config-part onto modA-config-part >>> mount modB-state-part onto modA-state-part >>> One mount becomes two and you have to maintain parallel mounts >>>otherwise you are mounting half modules. >> This is already happenning with augments. It means some work but >>nothing terribly complex. >> >>> Actually the problem is not caused by opstate, but rather by >>>multi-rooted models. but avoiding foo-state would make life easier once >>>more. >> We already agreed that some items (such as RIBs) are "true" state which >>don't have direct counterparts in configuration. If we don't have >>foo-state, where are these supposed to be placed? >One choice is that they could just be placed under foo, where foo is a >config false leaf. While there is a NETCONF/RESTCONF incompatibility with config-false data nodes under config-true data nodes, there is no problem with the reverse - correct? Thanks, Acee > >Rob > > >> >> Lada >> >>> regards Balazs >>> >>> -- >>> Balazs Lengyel Ericsson Hungary Ltd. >>> Senior Specialist >>> Mobile: +36-70-330-7909 email: Balazs.Lengyel@ericsson.com >>> >> -- >> Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs >> PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C >> >> >> >> >> . >> > >_______________________________________________ >netmod mailing list >netmod@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recommended… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Rob Shakir
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Balazs Lengyel
- [netmod] OpsState and Schema-Mount Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [netmod] Corollary to [OpsState Direction Impact … Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… thomas nadeau
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Rob Shakir
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] OpsState Direction Impact on Recomme… Andy Bierman