Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB)
"Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com> Mon, 09 March 2015 09:57 UTC
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From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB)
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Hi Juergen, Thanks a lot for your comments. Please see some replies inline: > -----Original Message----- > From: netmod [mailto:netmod-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 7:06 PM > To: Benoit Claise > Cc: draft-dong-i2rs-network-inventory@tools.ietf.org; > i2rs-chairs@tools.ietf.org; NETMOD Working Group > Subject: Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) > > On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 11:48:02AM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > The I2RS interim meeting yesterday focused on topology. > > Let me cut/paste a high level slide, with pointers to the relevant drafts. > > > > > > If interested, the meeting minutes are at > > http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/i2rs-interim-march-5-2015-v-blue > > sheets > > > > Part of the inventory draft > > (http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-i2rs-network-inventory/) > > discussion, the overlap with the ENTITY-MIB RFC 6933 was discussed > > (and RFC 7223 btw). > > > > > > The message was that I2RS should not re-invent something similar to > > the ENTITY-MIB So, are you aware of any initiatives to "YANGify" the > > ENTITY-MIB? > > It's true that there is a way to translate MIB into YANG with RFC 6643. > > This could be a good start. However, I wonder if a hand-written YANG > > model that closely follows the entPhysical would not be more beneficial. > > Is this something we should take on board in NETMOD? > > > > What do you think? > > > > Note: As commented by the I2RS people, indexing is appropriate in the > > MIB module for its original purpose, but may not be for the topology. > > I'm not sure we want to change the indexing just for the topology, but > > the integration within the topology draft should be thought of. > > > > My first question is (perhaps not surprising) whether inventory falls > into the I2RS charter, I2RS = interface to the routing system. That > said, RFC 6643 gives you a read-only translation. There are not many > read-write objects in the ENTITY-MIB so perhaps this is good enough > for now. I guess it would help what I2RS needs to know in order to > make the interface to the routing system work. > > Anyway, if YANG models overlapping the ENTITY-MIB are done, they they > should at least allow implementation of both in a predictable manner. We will take a look at the ENTITY-MIB and see how to re-use and possibly update the materials in that MIB. > Looking at draft-dong-i2rs-network-inventory-00, it seems the whole > interface list is already covered by RFC 7223 and interfaces should be > references not repeated (this is what the ENTITY-MIB does). Agreed, reference or augment the interface module is reasonable and will be considered in next revision. > So what is > left is essentially a (not yet hierarchy) of 'cards' that seem to more > or less match the entPhysicalTable of the ENTITY-MIB (but then the > ENTITY-MIB has a more flexible model that distinguishes between > different kind of hardware components). Agree we can make this more generic for different types of network equipments/components. > I also notice that the model > in draft-dong-i2rs-network-inventory-00 is config true - so I am not > sure how this is supposed to use. Is the idea that this model is an > interface to an inventory database where I configure what I have > instead of a model sitting on a device where I can query what the > device actually has? The idea is that the inventory model not only can be used to query the information and status of the device/components, but also can be used/augmented to configure some generic and protocol-independent functions on the device/components. Best regards, Jie > > /js > > PS: I personally would have preferred if generic topology and perhaps > inventory would have split off into a short-lived targeted WG > instead of doing all of this in I2RS but it seems leadership has > already decided that I2RS is the home for all of this. > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Susan Hares
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Susan Hares
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Tina TSOU
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Susan Hares
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Susan Hares
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [netmod] Inventory YANG model (entity-MIB) Juergen Schoenwaelder