Re: [NGO] NETMOD charter

"Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Mon, 17 March 2008 05:33 UTC

Return-Path: <ngo-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-ngo-archive@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-ngo-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E063A6C2F; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:33:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -100.328
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.328 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fiBW5mvbnhWM; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:33:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0240C28C1B0; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:33:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-To: ngo@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ngo@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574DB3A67D5 for <ngo@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qtH4syxugyTK for <ngo@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DE728C1AD for <ngo@ietf.org>; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=cVNWxiqYrMBvA5ysC+0HCb3GnENhgMYrDegNHOTxyvtVTxbD2eph+8rlToNlh2+8; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;
Received: from [68.164.80.209] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>) id 1Jb7v8-0002Xx-N3 for ngo@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:30:03 -0400
Message-ID: <004301c887f8$4ad3e8e0$6801a8c0@oemcomputer>
From: Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>
To: NETCONF Goes On <ngo@ietf.org>
References: <47DDBB90.1040803@andybierman.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:29:44 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478
X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d8885d2a9c731cc891176ed6cdd9a5805ad9abac4983ea954694350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c
X-Originating-IP: 68.164.80.209
Subject: Re: [NGO] NETMOD charter
X-BeenThere: ngo@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: NETCONF Goes On - discussions on future work and extensions to NETCONF <ngo.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo>, <mailto:ngo-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/pipermail/ngo>
List-Post: <mailto:ngo@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ngo-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo>, <mailto:ngo-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: ngo-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: ngo-bounces@ietf.org

Hi -

> From: "Andy Bierman" <ietf@andybierman.com>
> To: "NETCONF Goes On" <ngo@ietf.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:30 PM
> Subject: [NGO] NETMOD charter
...
> I would like to get a NETMOD WG chartered before the next IETF,
> not keep having BoFs that may eventually lead to a WG some year.
...

The folks from the rcdml design team (along with folks from other teams)
have been asked by Dan to come up with a charter proposal for discussion.
Our goal is to have it ready within two weeks.  (Holy week stretches out
what would otherwise have been on a shorter timeline.)

A very broad outline (and please, let's hold off on the detail discussion
until we've come up with a proposal with enough detail to support a
discussion!) of the deliverables is this:
  - an operator-friendly data modeling language, based on the yang
    proposal
  - the modeling language would provide basic support for object-oriented
    modeling concepts (no intentions of getting carried away!)
  - a lossless transform into a tool-friendly representation, probably
    built on the DSDL proposal

(I gave a more detailed account of my personal view of how things might
proceed on Friday morning at the nmrg meeting.)

There's obviously more to this all, but the good news is that our AD was
able to get a bunch of people into a room and hammer out what appears
to be a reasonable way forward that folks can live with.

Randy

_______________________________________________
NGO mailing list
NGO@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo