Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft
Daniel Franke <dfoxfranke@gmail.com> Sat, 30 March 2019 17:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft
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On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:57 AM Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> wrote: > In some other mail you wrote: > > However, I do note that the current draft implements only part of what > > I recommended, and I think it would be further improved by doing the > > rest of it as well. To reiterate what I recommended, in place of the > > current LEAP tag, provide the following three tags: > > > > MRLS - a TAI timestamp representing the time at which the > > most-recently published leap second ends. This may be in either the > > future or the past. > > > > LSDI - A bit indicating whether the leap second given in MRLS is an > > insertion or a deletion. > > > > UTCO - What the TAI-UTC offset was or will be as of the time given > > in MRLS. > > So I'm wondering why this MRLS is not part of this draft and that > ELI is 2 bits instead of the 1 bit LSDI. > > Using that combination would at least avoid the comments about it > being possible to have a leap second every 1 or 6 months. The MRLS/LSDI representation I recommended before is better and easier to work with when you're using TAI timestamps everywhere, and when that's the case you have a better world overall. So for Roughtime where the existing deployed base is negligible so we can pretty much do what we want, that was my recommendation. But NTP uses (pseudo-)UTC timestamps and I don't want to go back and mess with the semantics of existing fields. This draft is what I see as the cleanest way to retrofit better leap second handling onto the existing protocol and existing buggy implementations of it.
- [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Tony Finch
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Dieter Sibold
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Tony Finch
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Tony Finch
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Tony Finch
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Leap second draft Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Leap second draft Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Leap second draft Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Leap second draft Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Leap second draft Warner Losh