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Re: [openpgp] Call for adoption of draft-gallagher-openpgp-replacementkey

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sun, 07 April 2024 15:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Call for adoption of draft-gallagher-openpgp-replacementkey
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Hi Simon,

On 07/04/2024 09:32, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> If automatic processing is one intended purpose use of the
> specification, some discussion of how that is intended to happen is
> needed.

Just asking for a clarification: is your position that these
issues need to be fixed but that that can be done after the
draft is adopted, or, that these issues need to be fixed before
you'd support adoption?

Ta,
S.

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