Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-l2nm-09.txt

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Hi Tom, 

Thank you for checking. Will fix as appropriate. 

Thank you. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> Envoyé : jeudi 18 novembre 2021 11:54
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>;
> adrian@olddog.co.uk; opsawg@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-l2nm-09.txt
> 
> From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Sent: 08 November 2021 14:19
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> <tp>
> It looks like Figure 15 is out of line with the YANG in both -09 and -10
> 
> Figure 15 has
>     leaf translate
>   leaf cvlan-id
>   leaf mode
> where in the YANG it would appear to be
>     leaf translate
>   leaf cvlan-id
>   leaf direction
> 
> tom petch
> 
> 
> 
> I confirm that Figure 12 is correct.
> 
> What is authoritative is the YANG module. We provided the reader with
> instructions to generate the full tree:
> 
>    The full tree diagram of the module can be generated using the
>    "pyang" tool [PYANG].
> 
> It is much more easier to include the full tree and update it once when
> the module is touched but having a tree spanning dozens of pages is not
> usable. This is why we are using subtrees:
> 
>    That tree is not included here because it is
>    too long (Section 3.3 of [RFC8340]).  Instead, subtrees are provided
>    for the reader's convenience.
> 
> However, this approach has some cons as we need to check manually many
> many figures. We are doing our best to maintain up-to-date subtrees ...
> but bugs happen.
> 
> Thank you for helping identifying some of those.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> > Envoyé : lundi 8 novembre 2021 13:51
> 
> 
> > From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> > Sent: 08 November 2021 07:38
> > Hi Adrian, Tom, all,
> >
> > The comments raised by Tom are now addressed in -10.
> >
> > <tp A fresh comment on -09 which also applies to -10.
> > In Figure 12 I see
> >              |           +--rw saii?                      uint32
> >              |           +--rw remote-targets* [taii]
> >              |           |  +--rw taii         uint32
> >              |           |  +--rw peer-addr    inet:ip-address
> >  while in Figure 13 I see
> >              |           +--rw saii?                      uint32
> >              |           +--rw remote-target* [peer-addr taii]
> >              |           |  +--rw peer-addr    inet:ip-address
> >              |           |  +--rw taii         uint32
> >
> > i.e. a change of identifier for the list, a change in keys, a change
> > in leaf order.  The YANG suggests that Figure 13 is wrong.  More
> > fundamentally, YANG tree diagrams are an aid to understanding and
> > reviewing especially with a module as big as this.  If they cannot be
> > trusted, then what can?
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> >
> > Two comments on idnits:
> >
> > (1) obsolete reference:
> >
> >   -- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 5143
> >      (Obsoleted by RFC 4842)
> >
> > This is on purpose as we are following what is in:
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/pwe3-
> > parameters.xhtml#pwe3-parameters-2.
> >
> > (2) long lines:
> >
> > idnits is clean when I run it prior to submission:
> >
> > ==
> >
> >   Checking nits according to https://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist :
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > ----
> >
> >      No issues found here.
> > ==
> >
> > However, the datatracker displays the following after submission:
> >
> > ==
> >   Checking nits according to https://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist :
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > ----
> >
> >   ** There are 132 instances of too long lines in the document, the
> > longest
> >      one being 3 characters in excess of 72.
> > ==
> >
> > Will see how to fix this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Envoyé : lundi 1 novembre
> > > 2021 13:57 À : 'tom petch' <ietfc@btconnect.com>; BOUCADAIR Mohamed
> >
>  >
> > > Useful comments, thanks Tom.
> > >
> > > Authors, please run idnits and fix issues. Also address Tom's
> comments.
> > >
> > > I'll be doing my shepherd review this week. Hopefully you can post a
> > > new revision when the gates open next Monday.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Adrian
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> > > Sent: 01 November 2021 12:48
> 
> 
> > > From: OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of
> > > mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> > > Sent: 20 October 2021 09:49
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > After discussing with Adrian, we are publishing this version that
> > > addresses a recent comment from Julian. For more context, please
> > > refer to https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/lxnm/issues/350.
> > >
> > > <tp>
> > > Some stray thoughts
> > >
> > > some lines are 90 characters long
> > >
> > > 802.1ah is referenced but not in I-D References 802.3ah ditto
> > > 802.1ag Amendment 5 looks like a separate document warranting a
> > > separate reference 802.1p is referenced implicitly 802.1Q likewise
> > >
> > > What is the difference between
> > > identity bgp-l2encaps-type
> > >   Base BGP L2 encapsulation type
> > >      and
> > > identity iana-pw-types
> > >  Base BGP L2 encapsulation type
> > >
> > > ccm-priority-type
> > > what is high what low?
> > >
> > > Local Maintenance End Point (MEP)
> > > This is not the expansion used by the ITU-T
> > >
> > > leaf split-horizon-filtering
> > > what does true mean?
> > >
> > > leaf ccm-interval
> > > no units
> > >
> > > leaf ccm-holdtime
> > > no units
> > >
> > > leaf duplicate-ip-detection-interval no units
> > >
> > > leaf duplicate-ip-detection-interval no units
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom Petch
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Med
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : I-D-Announce <i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de
> > > > internet- drafts@ietf.org Envoyé : mercredi 20 octobre 2021 10:34 À
> :
> > > > i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc : opsawg@ietf.org Objet : I-D Action:


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