Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2
"Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com> Mon, 02 October 2006 20:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2
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Why must the teams agree on a methodology? The point of experimental publication is to get the definitions out there so that people can implement and use them. If it does not get used, then there is no need to move anything to Proposed Standard. If one gets used, and the others do not, then that one ends up on the standards track. Probably with improvements from the implementation and deployment experience. If several get implemented and deployed, then we hope to learn things from that deployment. We may discover that factors that never occurred to the working group will turn out to be important. It may be that factors the working group thought important turn out to be irrelevant. The IETF has almost never agreed on criteria for moving from experimental to proposed standard, other than "lets see what happens." And I would be amazed at the IETF giving significant weight to simulation experience for that transition. Yours, Joel M. Halpern PS: When this has been done in the past, it has been with the view that it was intended to get real world deployment experience. And that such experience was what mattered for any possible eventual move from experimental to standards track status. At 03:50 PM 10/2/2006, Richard Ogier wrote: >I think that if we decide to go forward with multiple experimental >drafts, then we MUST first agree on a methodology for comparing the >proposals, and all participants MUST agree to cooperate with this >methodology. (E.g., if one team refuses to implement their solution >in GTNetS, then they will be disqualified.) _______________________________________________ Ospf-manet mailing list Ospf-manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf-manet
- [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, Issue… Aniket Desai
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Acee Lindem
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Joe Macker
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Acee Lindem
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Acee Lindem
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Joel M. Halpern
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Drake, John E
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Drake, John E
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Acee Lindem
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Acee Lindem
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier
- RE: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Philippe Jacquet
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Ospf-manet Digest, Vol 11, I… Richard Ogier