Re: [pcp] CONSENSUS CALL on PCP security

Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@yegin.org> Tue, 16 July 2013 20:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [pcp] CONSENSUS CALL on PCP security
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Dave,

Last time we conducted this polling, the two pana-based solutions were asked separately.
Based on the discussions and the result of the poll, I realized some people preferred one PANA solution over the other, with possibly varying preference with respect to the EAP-o-PCP solution.
Bundling them up as one option is not a good idea.
So, I suggest we pose them as separate questions (like we did last time). After all, they are technically different.

One other thing: 

I'm not sure if enough thought went into the PCP Proxy security. As much as I'd love to be DONE! with this discussion, I also want to make sure people feel comfortable having thought all aspects around the proxy use. For (very important) example, what kind of security associations are needed for securing the proxy use: An SA btw client and server, an SA btw client and proxy, an SA btw proxy and server -- which combinations of these are needed? Then we need to talk about how we dynamically create those using any one of these solutions.

Alper





On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Dave Thaler wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) [mailto:tireddy@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:51 PM
>> To: Dave Thaler; pcp@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: [pcp] CONSENSUS CALL on PCP security
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> In the poll when you refer to PANA, please clarify the draft you are referring
>> to http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ohba-pcp-pana-04 or
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ohba-pcp-pana-encap-01 ?
>> 
>> --Tiru.
> 
> The question is intentionally agnostic as this is about a general approach,
> not which specific implementation.  If it helps, you can interpret the
> answer as "which of the two you think is better".
> 
> If the consensus is PANA rather than direct EAP-in-PCP, then we could 
> ask as a follow-up question which of the two we should go with. If
> you'd like to include your answer to that now though, feel free to
> include that in your response to the call.
> 
> -Dave
> 
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