Re: [pkix] review of draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2560bis-15

"Piyush Jain" <piyush@ditenity.com> Tue, 02 April 2013 16:34 UTC

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From: Piyush Jain <piyush@ditenity.com>
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Subject: Re: [pkix] review of draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2560bis-15
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> Anyhow, I think that rfc2560bis can not (and should not) make suggestions
> for specific values.  What values would your OCSP implementation use for
> "good" or "unknown" responses for the same CA?  Those values look like
> they might be from the right ballpark.

2560-bis states that these values correspond to those in CRLs.
Implementations that I know of set these values from the CRL for good
responses and use current time for unknown responses.

This is how 2560 defines these fields
- thisUpdate: The time at which the status being indicated is known  to be
correct
 - nextUpdate: The time at or before which newer information will be
available about the status of the certificate

So for non-issued, thisUpdate should be start of CAs validity interval (all
certs are revoked until they get issued) and nextUpdate should be current
time (a certificate with that serial can be issued anytime).