Re: [Pppext] warning suggestions for draft-bberry-pppoe-credit

Vernon Schryver writes:
>  - The IESG might refuse to go along, which would encourage more results
>     like PPPoE itself.  (I have no recollections of debate about PPPoE
>     here.  Am I wrong in thinking it bypassed this WG?)

There've been on-and-off discussions for many years.  Back in 1992,
there was a discussion about doing just this.

The first mention of PPP over Ethernet "as we know it" that I can find
on this list was from Luca Fantolino back in July 1997.  Uri Shabi
(and many others) told him that L2F, PPTP, and L2TP were good ways to
do this.

It popped up again as a draft notice in August 1998, but there was no
discussion about it at all until December 1998, and even then no
substantive discussion of why it was all a mistake.

I don't think it bypassed the WG.  It was even on the agenda for the
44th IETF.  I do think there just wasn't much in the way of
discussion, and was just published as Informational.

>  - If the IESG went along, the idea would be published in some
>     "PPPoE Forum" as the best thing since sliced bread and without any
>     caveats, and perhaps even without the improvements that have been
>     made to it here.
> 
>  - We should save our very limited power to say "No" and mean it
>     for worse things.

Indeed.

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