Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously (#3874)
Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com> Wed, 05 August 2020 01:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously (#3874)
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@martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -337,29 +337,47 @@ samples, and rttvar is the variation in the RTT samples, estimated using a mean variation. The calculation of smoothed_rtt uses path latency after adjusting RTT samples -for acknowledgement delays. These delays are computed using the ACK Delay field -of the ACK frame as described in Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. For packets -sent in the Application Data packet number space, a peer limits any delay in -sending an acknowledgement for an ack-eliciting packet to no greater than the -value it advertised in the max_ack_delay transport parameter. Consequently, when -a peer reports an acknowledgment delay that is greater than its max_ack_delay, -the delay is attributed to reasons out of the peer's control, such as scheduler -latency at the peer or loss of previous ACK frames. Any delays beyond the -peer's max_ack_delay are therefore considered effectively part of path delay and -incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate. +for acknowledgement delays. These delays are computed using the ACK Delay +field of the ACK frame as described in Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. + +A peer MUST immediately acknowledge all ack-eliciting Initial packets. Does this belong in the transport draft too? And maybe we can include Handshake packets by conditioning this: "acknowledge all ack-eliciting Initial and Handshake packets immediately after processing them" > +available. When this is not the case, the peer MUST immediately acknowledge all +ack-eliciting Handshake packets, and MUST NOT delay acknowledgement of +ack-eliciting 0-RTT, or 1-RTT packets for any longer than the period that it +advertised in the max_ack_delay transport parameter (Section 18.2 of +{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). With the above change I suggest, you can move this out and talk about acknowledgment within 0 (Initial/Handshake) or max_ack_delay (0-RTT/1-RTT) of processing the packet. That leaves this paragraph as just "an endpoint might have to delay processing until it has keys". > -incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate. +for acknowledgement delays. These delays are computed using the ACK Delay +field of the ACK frame as described in Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. + +A peer MUST immediately acknowledge all ack-eliciting Initial packets. + +Prior to handshake confirmation, a peer might not have the packet protection +keys for Handshake, 0-RTT, or 1-RTT packets when they are received. It might +therefore buffer them and acknowledge them when the requisite keys become +available. When this is not the case, the peer MUST immediately acknowledge all +ack-eliciting Handshake packets, and MUST NOT delay acknowledgement of +ack-eliciting 0-RTT, or 1-RTT packets for any longer than the period that it +advertised in the max_ack_delay transport parameter (Section 18.2 of +{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). + +Since the peer might report large acknowledgement delays during the handshake, ```suggestion As the peer might report large acknowledgement delays during the handshake, ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874#pullrequestreview-461277231
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