Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518)

Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com> Thu, 05 July 2018 00:39 UTC

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It says "handshake data", which is correct, if perhaps a little too easy to mistake for "Handshake packets".

Acknowledging promptly is primarily an optimization.  It should still work with the leisurely timers.  My naive assumption was that when you process a CRYPTO frame you would cut the ack delay timer.  That gets you a pretty good approximation of the right behaviour, even if that also means that NewSessionTicket forces more aggressive acknowledgment than necessary (for which you could condition on the packet protection level if you cared).

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