Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518)

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Re #2, it it possible the client misses an acknowledgement of the EOED.  If this happens, we either need to rely on implicit acknowledgement, which we've avoided so far, or the client retransmitting EOED and the server ACKing it.  Or never stop ACKing EOED until you know it's been received, but that seems more complex?

Re #3, I had higher numbered packets in mind, due to reordering.  But this seems very similar to how changing key phases would work, which matches my mental model of the 0RTT to 1RTT transition.

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