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Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The method of identifying "the same server" (#3155)

Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com> Mon, 04 November 2019 04:43 UTC

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@igorlord 
> As for the privacy, I do not see a problem. The gateway already sees everything and knows everything.

Only when the gateway is encrypting / decrypting the traffic. Counterexample is QUIC-LB, where the gateway just forwards the packets to different backend servers.

> If they do not cooperate, this is no different than a multi-CDN case.

(c) is exactly the same as what we state for TLS session tickets in RFC 1.3, which covers the multi-CDN case. If we want to be more lax, I think we need to present that there is no privacy concerns in doing so.

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