Re: [AVTCORE] [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC

Justin Uberti <juberti@alphaexplorationco.com> Tue, 13 July 2021 20:38 UTC

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 13:38:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC
To: Roberto Peon <fenix=40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 1:35 PM Roberto Peon <fenix=40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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> Seems like a good idea to me, unless there is a home that is already well
> suited!
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> -=R
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> *From: *QUIC <quic-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Luke Curley <
> kixelated@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:16 PM
> *To: *Alan Frindell <afrind=40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> *Cc: *"quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>, Sergio Garcia Murillo <
> sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com>, "avt@ietf.org" <avt@ietf.org>, "
> wish@ietf.org" <wish@ietf.org>, Kirill Pugin <ikir@fb.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC
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> Hey Alan, thanks for publishing your protocol!
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> Twitch has also been working on a video over QUIC protocol, albeit
> primarily for video distribution instead of contribution. We're very
> interested in collaborating on RUSH and producing a new standard for live
> streaming! Would there be broader interest in forming a video over QUIC
> working group?
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> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:04 PM Alan Frindell <afrind=
> 40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> Hi Sergio, thanks for your interest in the draft.
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> I’m interested in seeing a video ingest protocol standard that leverages
> QUIC as a transport, has some partial reliability support, and is less
> connection-oriented so that servers can go down for maintenance without
> impacting ingest reliability or having arbitrarily long drain times.  We
> published our RUSH draft to help kickstart the conversation but we’re open
> to feedback and modifications if they help advance those goals.
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> Thanks
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> -Alan
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> *From: *Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 9:02 AM
> *To: *Alan Frindell <afrind@fb.com>
> *Cc: *"quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>, "wish@ietf.org" <wish@ietf.org>, "
> avt@ietf.org" <avt@ietf.org>, Kirill Pugin <ikir@fb.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC
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> Hi Alan,
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> I think that the correct place for discussing it is AVTCORE as Bernard has
> indicated, as  WISH is not chartered to implement any new media protocol.
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> The draft is very interesting and I would be willing to collaborate, what
> is your main interest? Do you want to try to publish it as it is or would
> you be accepting feedback and include modifications?
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> Best regards
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> Sergio
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> El mar, 13 jul 2021 a las 17:37, Alan Frindell (<afrind=
> 40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>) escribió:
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> Hi, for several years, Facebook has been using its own video ingest
> protocol over QUIC from our apps to our infra.  While we’ve spoken about it
> before, we just now published a draft documenting how it works:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-kpugin-rush-00.html.
>
> The protocol leverages the advantages of QUIC transport, and features a
> partially reliable mode using only QUIC v1 RST_STREAM.
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> We welcome your feedback
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> Thanks
>
> -Alan Frindell
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