Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus
Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com> Sat, 19 January 2019 20:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus
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> On Jan 19, 2019, at 4:29 AM, Carl Wallace <carl@redhoundsoftware.com> wrote: > > [CW] Depending on where you are drawing the "decision" line, I don't > disagree with any of this. However, as a relying party of several > currently available attestation types, I can say that all I have > encountered are broken in one or more ways related to verification, > including: misapplication of security specifications, poor definition of > trust establishment practices, misuse of structures relevant to trust > establishment, misencoding of structures relevant for assessment of > attestation contents, unstable structure definitions, "interesting" use of > extensibility mechanisms. Each complicates interoperability and code reuse > without even considering that each is different. Most of these issues are > at the intersection of proprietary attestation structures and standard > security layers, i.e., the procedures that appear to be missing in the > charter goals. Nice list! :-) I suspect it is going to take a long while to get to the level of interop you have in mind, but I think it is a good goal. I hope you can stay involved and continue to point out things from this perspective. I also think we’ll end up keeping comparison to KGV in mind for lots of claim definition work even though it is out of scope. LL
- [Rats] Call for charter consensus Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Giridhar Mandyam
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Ira McDonald
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Daniel P. Smith
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Fuchs, Andreas
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Shwetha Bhandari (shwethab)
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus William Bellingrath
- [Rats] 答复: Call for charter consensus Xialiang (Frank, Network Standard & Patent Dept)
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Monty Wiseman
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Frank MATTHIAS KOVATSCH
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Laffey, Tom (HPE Aruba)
- Re: [Rats] [EAT] FW: Call for charter consensus Mathias Brossard
- Re: [Rats] [EAT] FW: Call for charter consensus Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Simon Frost
- Re: [Rats] [EAT] FW: Call for charter consensus Jeremy O'Donoghue
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [Rats] Call for charter consensus Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)