Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Fri, 09 April 2021 04:42 UTC
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On 9. Apr 2021, at 02:20, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> wrote: > > Therefore our recommendation is to deprecate > relref in 7991bis +1 > and likely add some or all of the relref attributes to > xref. De facto v3 already has those attributes, and I hope we can simply stick to those, specifically: section sectionFormat (of, comma, parens, bare) Usage in published RFCs so far: 336 sectionFormat=“bare" 391 sectionFormat=“comma" 42726 sectionFormat=“of" 1 sectionFormat=“parens” The value for sectionFormat=“of” is inflated as this is the default value, I think I'm only seeing 2215 actual section references in total, so it should really be 1487. The one occurrence of “parens” in RFC 8768 is interesting as this is really a numbered Table reference (which is not supported today so this is in prose), adorned by a section number. Grüße, Carsten _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest
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- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Julian Reschke
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref John Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Jay Daley
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref John R Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Julian Reschke
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Julian Reschke
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref John R Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Kent Watsen
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Kent Watsen
- Re: [rfc-i] deprecating relref Julian Reschke